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From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman)
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Subject: Re: Receiving files "automatically"
Date: 9 Nov 1994 14:35:28 GMT
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In article <DRW.94Nov9085840@runge.mit.edu>,
Dale R. Worley <drw@runge.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994Nov8.105602.32280@cc.usu.edu> jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) writes:
>So far, the developers haven't been stunningly useful. I've made one
>request, "The DIAL command is the single most important command in a
>terminal emulator, so you should make it *easy* to find out how to use
>it." and the developers have replied "We don't care."
The "we don't care." are your words not Frank's, not Joe's, and not mine.
We do care. However, we also do have limited time. 3.14 is still in Beta.
There is a ways to go yet. Be patient.
Frank and Joe commented in previous messages about your claim that DIAL was
not documented anywhere. They correctly pointed out that you were wrong.
Granted, with a several hundred page book, and several update files there is
a lot to read. But this is *free* software (until you buy the manual.)
>And for most commercial software, you *can* talk to tech support. And
>the developers do listen to what customers complain about.
Hate to tell you. Tech support is a far cry from talking to the developers.
Sure Tech Support may be able to tell you where to find the DIAL command
in the docs, but in most cases they can't help you with the real world of
non-PC to PC based communication.
>
> DOS ain't Unix, in case you haven't discovered that yet. Unix
> won't necessarily find files either unless the PATH is used or the
> program is built to look in its startup directory.
>
>You just compile the correct directory into the executable. It works
>quite reliably.
Are you saying hard code a specific directory name into an executable?
This is nuts. Where do you keep your MS-DOS Kermit?
C:\KERMIT
D:\KERMIT
F:\MSK
C:\BIN\COMM\MSK
how are we supposed to know where you keep your files?
Then there is the second case, I know where the exe files are but
where are the initialization files. Many people use separate directories
of init files in order to preserve separate configurations. Maybe for
a laptop on the LAN vs. a laptop connected to the LAN via a remote dialup.
You can't hard code directory names. Sorry.
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